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  Can you be a JW who does not have the GB as their leader?

  by DoubtingThomas in

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  i am.. they are just fellow brothers, old and getting senile.... but enlightened, despite all the whining.....

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  Sea Breeze

  But, you are correct, "the blood", the sacrifice Jesus made covers our sins. I have never met a brother or a sister that doesn't believe that.

  The value of the blood covering is ONLY accessible through the New Covenant - Read it again:

  And taking a cup, he offered thanks and gave it to them, saying: “Drink out of it, all of you, for this means my ‘blood of the covenant,’ which is to be poured out in behalf of many for forgiveness of sins.

  JW's live a life of total rebellion against the authority of Christ. There is simply no way to apply the blood covering without entering into this agreement. Many people (not just JW's) have made the mistake of going through their church affiliation (or some other way) to get access. But a person must do business directly with Jesus.

  Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber......I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved - John 10

  Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is NONE of his.” - Roman 8: 9

  It is a complete deception that imagines that a person can be friends with Jesus by disobeying his commands to get their sins forgiven as prescribed in Mt. 26: 27-28
  
  
  
  
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  Can you be a JW who does not have the GB as their leader?

  by DoubtingThomas in

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  i am.. they are just fellow brothers, old and getting senile.... but enlightened, despite all the whining.....

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  Sea Breeze

  DT, you don't have to go to church to get your sins forgiven. I conducted 8 to 10 bible studies every month as a regular pioneer. I was an expert on WT doctrines. I would come in contact with Christians in the door to door work and many would invariably ignore my intro and ask me if Jesus was my personal savior. I and my JW friends would mock them as being self centered, sappy & we couldn't understand why they were so hung up on this "personal savior" thing.
  
  Years later I read Hebrews 9: 27 where it says "it is appointed unto man once to die, and then judgement".

  Then I suddenly understood why all those householders wanted to know if I had a personal savior. It was because they knew that there was going to be a personal judgement.

  The WT tries to pretend that they have a corporate contract with God like the Israelites did in the OT. They imagine that all you have to do is get into the modern day "ark".

  Israel had a national contract with God through Moses as their mediator.... but it only guaranteed the survival of the nation as a whole. The NT contract in Mt. 26: 27-28 is a personal contract (better terms with better promises) that guarantees the forgiveness of sins. It is a blood covenant in the fullest sense of the term... to the death of both parties. There are only two names on the contract.... Jesus and the believer.
  
  Jesus isn't saving nations, churches or organizations with his contract offer. It is offered to individuals. It is the only offer anybody will ever get for the forgiveness of sins, whether they live in the Church Age now, or later in the Millennium. The future location of the individual has nothing to do with it.

  Your good works won't save you , your church won't save you, and you can't save yourself. Only the blood of Jesus can save. Just as the original Passover night required a blood covering over the door header.... since Calvary we must be under the blood to be saved FROM JUDGEMENT.

  There are three scriptures you will never hear read at the KH. I have already presented you with two of them. The third is this:

  Is. 64:6 "all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags"

  Notice that it is not your sins that are filthy, but your righteousness. Paul backs this up with the statement, "there is no no righteous, no not one".

  If you still disagree... then WHAT will save you in place of the New Covenant "for the forgiveness of sins"?

  What say you?
  
  
  
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  Can you be a JW who does not have the GB as their leader?

  by DoubtingThomas in

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  i am.. they are just fellow brothers, old and getting senile.... but enlightened, despite all the whining.....

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  Me: DT, are you saying that you personally claim membership in the New Covenant and partake of the bread and wine?

  DT: No. I will not be going to heaven.

  Me: Mt. 26: 27&28 CLEARLLY states what the new covenant is for : FORGIVENESS OF SINS. It doesn't say anything about going to heaven. That is Watchtower misdirection.

  Read it for yourself:

  Mt. 26: 27-28 27And taking a cup, he offered thanks and gave it to them, saying: “Drink out of it, all of you, for this means my ‘blood of the covenant, which is to be poured out in behalf of many for forgiveness of sins. - NWT

  So, millions of Christians would like to know this: If you personally reject the new covenant for the forgiveness of sins, how do you get your sins forgiven?

  
  
  
  
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  Can you be a JW who does not have the GB as their leader?

  by DoubtingThomas in

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  i am.. they are just fellow brothers, old and getting senile.... but enlightened, despite all the whining.....

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  Sea Breeze

  Rattigan, are you part of the new covenant by partaking of the read and wine? If not, you are rejecting it.

  Note: The NWT added the phrase "once for all time" to try to make it fit their theology.

  " it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment" - KJV
  
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  Moses, Pharaoh and the Exodus Fairytale

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  exodus 7. .

  new king james version.

  moses before pharaoh.

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  Sea Breeze

  Why should the conveniently anonymous pharaoh believe anything Moses says? According to Exodus 5:1, 3, Moses lied from the outset.

  Jeffro,

  They worshipped in the wilderness just like Moses stated. How is that a lie?
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  Can you be a JW who does not have the GB as their leader?

  by DoubtingThomas in

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  i am.. they are just fellow brothers, old and getting senile.... but enlightened, despite all the whining.....

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  Sea Breeze

  DT, are you saying that you personally claim membership in the New Covenant and partake of the bread and wine?
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  From the WTBS to... CHURCHS???

  by DoubtingThomas in

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  why?????

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  Sea Breeze

  Doubting Thomas:

  
  

  You said on another thread:

  
  

  The WTBS led me to the Truth (Bible), and I've embraced it!

  How do you expect to survive the judgement after you die as described in Hebrews 9:27 while personally rejecting the blood covenant offered for the forgiveness of sins in Mt. 26: 27-28 ?

  What exactly is the bible truth that you have embraced that you think saves you from judgment?
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  Can you be a JW who does not have the GB as their leader?

  by DoubtingThomas in

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  i am.. they are just fellow brothers, old and getting senile.... but enlightened, despite all the whining.....

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  Sea Breeze

  Doubting Thomas:

  
  

  Here it is again:

  
  

  The WTBS led me to the Truth (Bible), and I've embraced it!

  How do you expect to survive the judgement after you die as described in Hebrews 9:27 while personally rejecting the blood covenant offered for the forgiveness of sins in Mt. 26: 27-28 ?

  What exactly is the bible truth that you have embraced that you think saves you from judgment?
  
  
  
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  My Prediction Regarding New Space Telescope That Will See Back to 100 Million Years From the Big Bang

  by Sea Breeze in

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  a new space telescope launched a few days age that will supposedly be able to see to within 100 million years of the big bang.

  wow... only 100 million years from the big bang.

  that is pretty early given the 12 billion year age of the universe assigned by scholars who adhere to naturalism.

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  Sea Breeze

  FFGhost,

  A literal reading of Genesis states that the earth was created on day 1. Stars were not created until Day 4.

  
  

  When I left the WT I unknowingly kept some of their teachings.... like billions of years. I have been investigating the liklihood of a literal creation week for a couple years now and have been pleasantly surprised by the findings.
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  My Prediction Regarding New Space Telescope That Will See Back to 100 Million Years From the Big Bang

  by Sea Breeze in

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  a new space telescope launched a few days age that will supposedly be able to see to within 100 million years of the big bang.

  wow... only 100 million years from the big bang.

  that is pretty early given the 12 billion year age of the universe assigned by scholars who adhere to naturalism.

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  Sea Breeze

  This just in from Harvard:

  Scientists at the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) are claiming to have achieved faster-than-light transfer of quantum data. So, there are some possibility that we can achieve the speed higher than light. In this paper we are going to study the speed of the astronomical objects at the hypothetical edges of the Universe by 3 methods and we will show that the speed of celestial objects at the edges of the Universe could be greater than the speed of light.

  Oooops